Thursday, April 9, 2009

De-Converting Hardcore Theists is Impossible

Do I try to de-convert Christians, Jews, and other theists? No. I do not. That is impossible. I used to be that way, and no one could de-convert me. People have to do it on their own. That's how it works. While I do not try to de-convert theists, I do try to influence the "fence-sitters" or the people who are exploring life outside of religious dogma, but aren't quite "there". That is where I had been for months before I broke the chains of faith. Many de-converts lie in the gray phase for some time before fully awakening to the scam.

Ever debated a conspiracy theorist? You know, the folks who think that 9/11 was carried out with bombs, or the people who think the Federal Reserve was conceived by a handful of wealthy bankers, or the people who argue that climate change is a scam by highly educated and intelligent scientists? It's pretty much impossible, isn't it? Why is that? Because if you disagree with them, you're "in on it". That's the only reason you'd disagree with them, because you are IN on it. That, or you are under a hopeless influence by the people responsible.

It's the same way with theists. Any sort of logic or reason is "temptation from Satan" or something similar. It is therefore impossible to convince a theist that their beliefs are bullshit, because you are just under the influence of Satan, or demons, or whatever. How delightfully convenient that any sort of dissent is the work of some sort of evil being.

Of course this is logically unsound on their part, but in their minds, any dissent to their beliefs is "evil". With their own flawed logic, their beliefs are easily destroyed.

For example, there is a way to prove that you are God. That's right, you can prove that you are God, using their logic. Here is thunderf00t's method of proving that you are indeed God.

1) Telling a lie makes you a liar and stealing makes you a thief. That is said in the Bible.
2) Everything in the Bible is true.
3) The Bible says there are none good except God.
4) With the logic of assumption 1, a single act of good makes you good. If a single lie makes you a liar, why can't a single act of good make you good?
5) According to assumption 3, being good makes you God.
6) With a single act of good, you are God.

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